{"id":14464,"date":"2021-08-03T08:31:29","date_gmt":"2021-08-03T08:31:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/travel-safety-magazine\/?p=14464"},"modified":"2022-04-28T13:19:59","modified_gmt":"2022-04-28T13:19:59","slug":"sarah-williams-tough-girl-podcast","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/sarah-williams-tough-girl-podcast\/","title":{"rendered":"Adventurer Sarah Williams | Tough Girl Podcast"},"content":{"rendered":"<span class=\"span-reading-time rt-reading-time\" style=\"display: block;\"><span class=\"rt-label rt-prefix\">Approx read: <\/span> <span class=\"rt-time\"> 5<\/span> <span class=\"rt-label rt-postfix\">mins<\/span><\/span><h3 id=\"sarah-williams-is-the-host-of-\" class=\"p2\">Sarah Williams is the host of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.toughgirlchallenges.com\/\"><span class=\"s1\">Tough Girl Podcast<\/span><\/a>, which delves into the motivations, strategies and successes of some of the world\u2019s most intrepid female adventurers and athletes.<\/h3>\n<h4 id=\"and-she\u2019s-certainly-got-the-\" class=\"p2\">And she\u2019s certainly got the experience to meet them on equal terms.<\/h4>\n<p class=\"p2\">After quitting her \u2018safe\u2019 job in finance, she embarked on a life of travel and adventure which included taking part in the gruelling <a href=\"https:\/\/www.marathondessables.com\/en\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Marathon Des Sables<\/a> (251km in six days across the Sahara Desert), walking the 2,300-mile route of the Appalachian Trail, and cycling the 4,000km Pacific Coast Highway and Baja California, solo and unsupported.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/travel-safety-magazine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/LycianWay-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_.jpg\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-14472 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/travel-safety-magazine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/LycianWay-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"940\" height=\"626\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/LycianWay-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_.jpg 940w, https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/LycianWay-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/LycianWay-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_-768x511.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/LycianWay-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_-696x464.jpg 696w, https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/LycianWay-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_-631x420.jpg 631w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h4 id=\"sarah-you-swapped-a-steady-car\" class=\"p2\">Sarah, you swapped a steady career in finance for a life of adventure. Was it difficult to take that big leap into the unknown?<\/h4>\n<p class=\"p2\">It was a difficult decision because at that point I didn\u2019t really know what I wanted to do. Initially it was like \u2018I\u2019m going to take some time out\u2019 \u2013 I\u2019m going to go travelling, find myself again. And it was while I was travelling that I finally got the time to really think \u2018Hold on, what do I really want to do with my life? What do I want my life to look like for the next 10-20 years?\u2019 And the things that I enjoy are travel and adventure but also motivating and inspiring women and girls. So, it\u2019s been this long and winding road to get to where I am now.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/travel-safety-magazine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/helmet-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_.jpeg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14474\" src=\"https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/travel-safety-magazine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/helmet-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"769\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/helmet-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_.jpeg 769w, https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/helmet-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_-225x300.jpeg 225w, https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/helmet-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_-696x927.jpeg 696w, https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/helmet-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_-315x420.jpeg 315w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 769px) 100vw, 769px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h4 id=\"how-do-you-train-for-a-big-phy\" class=\"p2\">How do you train for a big physical challenge like the Marathon des Sables or hiking the Appalachian Trail? Any tips for people planning similar projects?<\/h4>\n<p class=\"p2\">The first thing that I do is actually look at the weather. I\u2019m not a fan of the cold and the wet, so I do look at the temperatures, where it\u2019s going to be hot, where it\u2019s going to be warm.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/travel-safety-magazine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/marathon-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14470\" src=\"https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/travel-safety-magazine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/marathon-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"960\" height=\"960\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/marathon-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_.jpg 960w, https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/marathon-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/marathon-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/marathon-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/marathon-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_-696x696.jpg 696w, https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/marathon-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_-420x420.jpg 420w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 960px) 100vw, 960px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\">The second thing I\u2019d look at is the time frame. How much time do you have available for the challenge. One of the reasons I went from doing the Marathon des Sables to the Appalachian Trail was because of that. You\u2019re over there and you\u2019re having the most incredible time, and then you finish and it\u2019s over and I was literally like \u2018Huh, the adventure was finished, it was completed\u2019. So, when I picked the Appalachian Trail \u2013 2,200 miles, doing it in 100 days \u2013 it meant that I was out there for three-and-a-bit months. Which was just incredible.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_14467\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-14467\" style=\"width: 960px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/travel-safety-magazine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/summit-photo-AT-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-14467 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/travel-safety-magazine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/summit-photo-AT-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"960\" height=\"1004\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/summit-photo-AT-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_.jpeg 960w, https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/summit-photo-AT-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_-287x300.jpeg 287w, https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/summit-photo-AT-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_-768x803.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/summit-photo-AT-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_-696x728.jpeg 696w, https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/summit-photo-AT-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_-402x420.jpeg 402w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 960px) 100vw, 960px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-14467\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Summit of the Appalachian Trail<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<h4 id=\"physical-and-mental-prep\">Physical and mental prep<\/h4>\n<p class=\"p2\">In terms of the physical and mental side, obviously it does depend on what event you\u2019re doing. I always start off with trying to go for a good base of fitness. And for me that\u2019s having strength \u2013 so lifting heavy weights, building that physical endurance. And I\u2019d normally spend three months focusing on that side of things. And that would be quite specific as well to the training that I\u2019m doing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\">For the Marathon des Sables, for example, the race was in April and I was out in Australia for three months. And I was very focused on running. There was a heat wave at that point in time in Australia, and everyone else was trying to avoid the mid-day sun, and I was like \u2018This is perfect\u2019. So I\u2019d be heading out at 12 o\u2019clock for four or five hours to make the most of the really, really hot temperatures.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_14469\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-14469\" style=\"width: 768px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/travel-safety-magazine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/MDSwater-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-14469 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/travel-safety-magazine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/MDSwater-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"768\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/MDSwater-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/MDSwater-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/MDSwater-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_-696x928.jpg 696w, https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/MDSwater-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_-315x420.jpg 315w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-14469\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Marathon des Sables<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p class=\"p2\">Visualisation is also very powerful \u2013 breaking down the challenge. A very practical tip I learnt is doing a \u2018what-if\u2019 list \u2013 what are all the potential issues or challenges that you could go through? What if I run out of water? What if I\u2019m facing a bear? What if I get my pack stolen? What if I injure myself?<\/p>\n<h4 id=\"you\u2019ve-done-more-than-400-in\" class=\"p2\">You\u2019ve done more than 400 interviews with female explorers, adventurers and athletes. What\u2019s surprised you the most about chatting with so many incredible women?<\/h4>\n<p class=\"p2\">I think it\u2019s been fascinating learning their individual stories and the journeys they\u2019ve been on. And also how they\u2019ve gone about it and faced these different challenges. Men can be very practical, it\u2019s about getting from A to B, this is what was involved. Whereas women share their stories, they talk a lot more about the internal journey \u2013 the fears they had to overcome, the doubts they had in dealing with judgement from friends and family. People not really understanding why they wanted to go out and climb the highest mountain or cycle around the world, or sail around the world. I think that\u2019s been really inspiring.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_14471\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-14471\" style=\"width: 961px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/travel-safety-magazine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/Start-of-camino-walkSarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-14471 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/travel-safety-magazine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/Start-of-camino-walkSarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"961\" height=\"961\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/Start-of-camino-walkSarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_.jpeg 961w, https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/Start-of-camino-walkSarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_-300x300.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/Start-of-camino-walkSarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_-150x150.jpeg 150w, https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/Start-of-camino-walkSarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_-768x768.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/Start-of-camino-walkSarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_-696x696.jpeg 696w, https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/Start-of-camino-walkSarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_-420x420.jpeg 420w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 961px) 100vw, 961px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-14471\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Start of the Camino Trail<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<h4 id=\"where\u2019s-a-great-place-to-sta\" class=\"p2\">Where\u2019s a great place to start with the podcast? Any favourite episodes that you\u2019d recommend first-time listeners check out?<\/h4>\n<p class=\"p2\">That\u2019s a hard question! One thing I try to do with the podcast is I try to speak to the professional adventurers and the Olympians and the elite, the one percent who are just mentally and physically absolutely incredible. But I do also speak to everyday women who are maybe going from the couch to running their first marathon, so there is a massive spectrum in terms of ages, sizes, abilities, passions and interests. It\u2019s not about comparison but it\u2019s about picking up the tips and the tricks.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\">A couple of my personal favourites were with <a href=\"https:\/\/play.acast.com\/s\/toughgirlpodcast\/dd2061ddfdd547d798c9f53aff5c469b\"><span class=\"s1\">Rose Swale-Pope<\/span><\/a>. She\u2019s an absolute inspiration and legend. She\u2019s 74 years young and in her 50s she actually lost the love of her life, so she ended up running around the world on this five-year journey and most recently, she was running to Istanbul in Turkey and then running onto Kathmandu in Nepal. A phenomenal woman and we just get on like a house on fire.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/travel-safety-magazine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/drama-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_-2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14477\" src=\"https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/travel-safety-magazine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/drama-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_-2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"620\" height=\"443\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/drama-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_-2.jpg 620w, https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/drama-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_-2-300x214.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/drama-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_-2-588x420.jpg 588w, https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/drama-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_-2-100x70.jpg 100w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 620px) 100vw, 620px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h4 id=\"you\u2019re-coming-up-to-six-year\" class=\"p2\">You\u2019re coming up to six years of producing the podcast, tell us about the Tough Girl Challenge UK Adventure Series.<\/h4>\n<p class=\"p2\">I started looking at different trails and adventures and I thought \u2018Oh it\u2019s the six year anniversary of the Tough Girl podcast, I need to mark it in some way\u2019. So, six adventures, six walks \u2013 the Anglesey Coastal Path, the South Downs Way, the Pilgrims Way, heading up to Scotland to do the West Highland Way, stopping off to do Ben Nevis, the top of the West Highland Way is Fort William, then you can walk across to Inverness. And I\u2019m just desperate to go away, to have the backpack on my shoulders again, back to nature, wild camping. So I\u2019m super excited about it!<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_14473\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-14473\" style=\"width: 768px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/travel-safety-magazine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/Loch-Ness-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-14473\" src=\"https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/travel-safety-magazine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/Loch-Ness-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"768\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/Loch-Ness-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/Loch-Ness-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_-225x300.jpeg 225w, https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/Loch-Ness-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_-696x928.jpeg 696w, https:\/\/www.battleface.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/Loch-Ness-Sarah-Williams-Tough-Girl-Podcast-battleface.com_-315x420.jpeg 315w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-14473\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Loch Ness<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><em>Check out the <span style=\"color: #ff9900;\"><a style=\"color: #ff9900;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.toughgirlchallenges.com\/\"><span class=\"s1\">Tough Girl Challenges website here<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Sarah Williams is the host of Tough Girl Podcast, which delves into the motivations, strategies and successes of some of the world\u2019s most intrepid female adventurers and athletes. 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